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	<title>Comments on: vSphere bug can bring down entire cluster (not fixed in Update1).</title>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
		<link>http://virtualfuture.info/2010/01/vsphere-bug-can-bring-down-entire-cluster-not-fixed-in-update1/comment-page-1/#comment-3076</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve actually done this intentionally once because the general rule in our Storage is to un-present it from the systems and then reclaim the space. Why? Because if we delete it via the host there&#039;s no way back. But I learned with vmware this is a bad thing to do. Our system didn&#039;t have these issues, but it was definitely unhappy. I had to get our storage admin to represent the LUN so I could delete it cleanly.

That&#039;s why I want my own SAN :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve actually done this intentionally once because the general rule in our Storage is to un-present it from the systems and then reclaim the space. Why? Because if we delete it via the host there&#8217;s no way back. But I learned with vmware this is a bad thing to do. Our system didn&#8217;t have these issues, but it was definitely unhappy. I had to get our storage admin to represent the LUN so I could delete it cleanly.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I want my own SAN <img src='http://virtualfuture.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Matthijs Haverink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthijs Haverink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 13:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Eric,

Thank you for your reaction but I think this is a non-discussion. When the impact can be this big it is VMware&#039;s responsibility to limit the possible damage. And by releasing a fix before update 2, VMware seems to share that opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Eric,</p>
<p>Thank you for your reaction but I think this is a non-discussion. When the impact can be this big it is VMware&#8217;s responsibility to limit the possible damage. And by releasing a fix before update 2, VMware seems to share that opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Sarakaitis</title>
		<link>http://virtualfuture.info/2010/01/vsphere-bug-can-bring-down-entire-cluster-not-fixed-in-update1/comment-page-1/#comment-3015</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Sarakaitis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 03:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont really see this as a bug. I am not surprised at the reaction of the system after removing storage in an unclean fashion. Can you blame vmware for bad decisions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont really see this as a bug. I am not surprised at the reaction of the system after removing storage in an unclean fashion. Can you blame vmware for bad decisions?</p>
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		<title>By: Matthijs Haverink</title>
		<link>http://virtualfuture.info/2010/01/vsphere-bug-can-bring-down-entire-cluster-not-fixed-in-update1/comment-page-1/#comment-3010</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthijs Haverink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben, thanks for your reply and the info. 

I had this post in my draft for a while so I was somewhat afraid this was outdated info but the scary thing is that we reported this case at the 2 months ago to VMware support and we&#039;ve never had a solution from VMware support so seems there&#039;s some room for improvement there ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben, thanks for your reply and the info. </p>
<p>I had this post in my draft for a while so I was somewhat afraid this was outdated info but the scary thing is that we reported this case at the 2 months ago to VMware support and we&#8217;ve never had a solution from VMware support so seems there&#8217;s some room for improvement there &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Conrad</title>
		<link>http://virtualfuture.info/2010/01/vsphere-bug-can-bring-down-entire-cluster-not-fixed-in-update1/comment-page-1/#comment-3002</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Conrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has been fixed in ESX400-200912401-BG , see KB 1015084 &amp; 1016626.  The wording in 1016626 is a bit confusing though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has been fixed in ESX400-200912401-BG , see KB 1015084 &amp; 1016626.  The wording in 1016626 is a bit confusing though.</p>
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