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	<title>Comments on: Veeam Backup 3.0: faster backup than with VCB?</title>
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		<title>By: VMware ESX Backup &#8211; Veeam Announce Backup 3.0 Release! &#124; TechHead.co.uk</title>
		<link>http://virtualfuture.info/2009/02/veeam-backup-30-faster-backup-than-with-vcb/comment-page-1/#comment-2993</link>
		<dc:creator>VMware ESX Backup &#8211; Veeam Announce Backup 3.0 Release! &#124; TechHead.co.uk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sven over at VirtualFuture.info has done some basic initial testing around the speeds of backing up VMs running under ESXi both using agentless and VCB methods with Veeam Backup 3.0. Well worth a read and can be found here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sven over at VirtualFuture.info has done some basic initial testing around the speeds of backing up VMs running under ESXi both using agentless and VCB methods with Veeam Backup 3.0. Well worth a read and can be found here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sven Huisman</title>
		<link>http://virtualfuture.info/2009/02/veeam-backup-30-faster-backup-than-with-vcb/comment-page-1/#comment-829</link>
		<dc:creator>Sven Huisman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 08:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My test was actually performed with an upcoming version of ESXi I&#039;m not allowed to talk about ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My test was actually performed with an upcoming version of ESXi I&#8217;m not allowed to talk about <img src='http://virtualfuture.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Anton</title>
		<link>http://virtualfuture.info/2009/02/veeam-backup-30-faster-backup-than-with-vcb/comment-page-1/#comment-822</link>
		<dc:creator>Anton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Sven for the review... especially appreciate quick performance testing you&#039;ve performed.

I guess I also have to respond to both comments above since they are very misleading.

1. &quot;Trilead VMX Explorer has been able to back up VMs from any edition of ESXi for a while now! Veeam Backup is not the first&quot;
a) Trilead support is in BETA yet - no production code available.
b) Trilead is about 10 times slower than Veeam on 1Gbps LAN (OK, this is my own testing, so I encourage everyone to retest)
c) Not really a backup tool (honestly... paid product gives about same level of functionality around backup as free Veeam FastSCP 3.0, also in beta now). Again encourage everyone to compare Backup offerings head to head.

2. &quot;vRanger was a month earlier with 3i support.&quot;
a) Not really. Veeam supported ESXi backup via VCB since version 2.0 release in August 2008.
b) vRanger does not support all ESXi editions - so they cannot claim to have full 3i support at all.
c) vRanger requires VCB for ESXi backup (mandatory). Cannot even restore network backups from ESX servers to ESXi - only VCB backups!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Sven for the review&#8230; especially appreciate quick performance testing you&#8217;ve performed.</p>
<p>I guess I also have to respond to both comments above since they are very misleading.</p>
<p>1. &#8220;Trilead VMX Explorer has been able to back up VMs from any edition of ESXi for a while now! Veeam Backup is not the first&#8221;<br />
a) Trilead support is in BETA yet &#8211; no production code available.<br />
b) Trilead is about 10 times slower than Veeam on 1Gbps LAN (OK, this is my own testing, so I encourage everyone to retest)<br />
c) Not really a backup tool (honestly&#8230; paid product gives about same level of functionality around backup as free Veeam FastSCP 3.0, also in beta now). Again encourage everyone to compare Backup offerings head to head.</p>
<p>2. &#8220;vRanger was a month earlier with 3i support.&#8221;<br />
a) Not really. Veeam supported ESXi backup via VCB since version 2.0 release in August 2008.<br />
b) vRanger does not support all ESXi editions &#8211; so they cannot claim to have full 3i support at all.<br />
c) vRanger requires VCB for ESXi backup (mandatory). Cannot even restore network backups from ESX servers to ESXi &#8211; only VCB backups!</p>
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		<title>By: Sven Huisman</title>
		<link>http://virtualfuture.info/2009/02/veeam-backup-30-faster-backup-than-with-vcb/comment-page-1/#comment-821</link>
		<dc:creator>Sven Huisman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to Vizioncore&#039;s site vRanger requires VCB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Vizioncore&#8217;s site vRanger requires VCB.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Mokkink</title>
		<link>http://virtualfuture.info/2009/02/veeam-backup-30-faster-backup-than-with-vcb/comment-page-1/#comment-820</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Mokkink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>vRanger was a month earlier with 3i support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vRanger was a month earlier with 3i support.</p>
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		<title>By: Sven Huisman</title>
		<link>http://virtualfuture.info/2009/02/veeam-backup-30-faster-backup-than-with-vcb/comment-page-1/#comment-816</link>
		<dc:creator>Sven Huisman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 08:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Rich. It looks like you&#039;re right. Although VMX Explorer only includes BETA support for ESXi, it doesn&#039;t seem to use VCB to backup VMs on ESXi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Rich. It looks like you&#8217;re right. Although VMX Explorer only includes BETA support for ESXi, it doesn&#8217;t seem to use VCB to backup VMs on ESXi.</p>
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		<title>By: VMCarrie</title>
		<link>http://virtualfuture.info/2009/02/veeam-backup-30-faster-backup-than-with-vcb/comment-page-1/#comment-811</link>
		<dc:creator>VMCarrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the mini-review!  And you&#039;re right about the typo on our web site ... we&#039;re fixing it to correctly read:  

Veeam Backup is the first enterprise-ready solution that combines backup and replication in a single product for fast recovery of VMs running on your VMware ESX servers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the mini-review!  And you&#8217;re right about the typo on our web site &#8230; we&#8217;re fixing it to correctly read:  </p>
<p>Veeam Backup is the first enterprise-ready solution that combines backup and replication in a single product for fast recovery of VMs running on your VMware ESX servers.</p>
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		<title>By: rbrambley</title>
		<link>http://virtualfuture.info/2009/02/veeam-backup-30-faster-backup-than-with-vcb/comment-page-1/#comment-810</link>
		<dc:creator>rbrambley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trilead VMX Explorer has been able to back up VMs from any edition of ESXi for a while now! Veeam Backup is not the first.
http://vmetc.com/2008/12/05/free-tools-with-virtualcenter-like-features/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trilead VMX Explorer has been able to back up VMs from any edition of ESXi for a while now! Veeam Backup is not the first.<br />
<a href="http://vmetc.com/2008/12/05/free-tools-with-virtualcenter-like-features/" rel="nofollow">http://vmetc.com/2008/12/05/free-tools-with-virtualcenter-like-features/</a></p>
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